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	<title>Great Oak Cohousing News</title>
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		<title>Common House Committee Projects - 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[- New washer/dryer; laundry room refitted with shelving, cabinets, and table top- Game room improvements - painting, ceiling fan added, ceiling mounted projector added- Double entry doors replaced- Entryway floor beautifully painted- Continuation of energy saving improvements begun in 2008- Child Supervision Policy adopted- Began 5 year planning process 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- New washer/dryer; laundry room refitted with shelving, cabinets, and table top<br />- Game room improvements - painting, ceiling fan added, ceiling mounted projector added<br />- Double entry doors replaced<br />- Entryway floor beautifully painted<br />- Continuation of energy saving improvements begun in 2008<br />- Child Supervision Policy adopted<br />- Began 5 year planning process 
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		<title>The Great Oak Workshop - A Quick Timeline - reported by Dale</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Feb. 2004 - Initial discussion startsSept. 2004 - It becomes clear that there is no contingency money for the shop.&#160; Let&#8217;s build it anyway!March 2005 - The county decides we need to have a bathroom in the shop before they&#8217;ll approve our plans.&#160; We appeal to the appeals board.May 2005 - We get permission to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Feb.</b> <b>2004</b> - Initial discussion starts<br /><b>Sept.</b> <b>2004</b> - It becomes clear that there is no contingency money for the shop.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s build it anyway!<br /><b>March</b> <b>2005</b> - The county decides we need to have a bathroom in the shop before they&#8217;ll approve our plans.&nbsp; We appeal to the appeals board.<br /><b>May 2005 - </b>We get permission to build the workshop without a bathroom, and can build it largely ourselves.<br /><b>Fall 2005 - </b>Design, including evaluating SIP (structural insulated panels).<br /><b>March 2006 </b>- Final design completed, quotes from various suppliers.<br /><b>May 2006 -</b> Building permit issued!<br /><b>July 3, 2006 </b>- Building begins.&nbsp; Site is cleared, work on removing curb begins.<br /><b>Sept. 2006 </b>- SIP panels ordered.&nbsp; Footings dug.<br /><b>October 2006 </b>- Footings poured.&nbsp; Foundation blocks.&nbsp; SIP panels arrive.&nbsp; Walls are up by the end of October.&nbsp; <br /><b>Nov. 2006 </b>- Windows on site.&nbsp; Trusses installed.<br /><b>Dec. 2006 </b>- Roof done.&nbsp; Floor poured.<br /><b>Feb. 2007 </b>- Garage door installed.<br /><b>May 2007 -</b> Concrete curb remains trucked off.<br /><b>June 2007 </b>- Siding, continuing through October 1.<br /><b>Jan. 2008 </b>- Electrical and lighting planning.<br /><b>Spring 2008 </b>- Interior wall installed. (?)<br /><b>June-Dec. 2008 </b>- Rough electrical work.<br /><b>March 2009 </b>- Drywall (walls and ceiling)<br /><b>June 1, 2009 </b>- Electrical final inspection passed.<br /><b>Aug. 17, 2009 </b>- Workshop Committee Mandate approved.<br /><b>Sept. 1, 2009 </b>- Gas finally hooked up (started in Jan. 2009)<br /><b>Sept. 21, 2009 -</b> Overall Community Workshop Policy adopted<br /><b>Oct. 8, 2009 </b>- Final inspection passed.<br /><b>Jan. 31, 2010 </b>- Open House!
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		<title>Grounds Committee Projects 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The Grounds Committee worked on the following projects during 2009:
- Master Planning Weekend - Jan.31/Feb.1- Added garden bed at east end of community- Filled steps between units 24 &#38; 25 with gravel- Finished shade structure in east gathering area- Laid sod on play field- Added 3 trees - in west pod, east pod at unit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grounds Committee worked on the following projects during 2009:</p>
<p>- Master Planning Weekend - Jan.31/Feb.1<br />- Added garden bed at east end of community<br />- Filled steps between units 24 &amp; 25 with gravel<br />- Finished shade structure in east gathering area<br />- Laid sod on play field<br />- Added 3 trees - in west pod, east pod at unit 31, in grassy triangle by play structure<br />- Added flowering shrubs in east end<br />- Decided to hire out lawn&nbsp; mowing
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		<title>Agreements Reached by Consensus in 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The following agreements were consensed upon at community meetings in 2009.&#160; For more detailed information please see the Book of Agreements.

Common House Sharing Agreement with TS (2009-02-16).&#160; Please note that this agreement did not take effect in 2009.
Great Oak Common House Children Supervision Policy (2009-03-16).
Quorum Change (2009-04-20).&#160; 
Workshop Committee Mandate (2009-08-17).
Overall Community Workshop Policy (2009-09-21).
Budget [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following agreements were consensed upon at community meetings in 2009.&nbsp; For more detailed information please see the Book of Agreements.</p>
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<li>Common House Sharing Agreement with TS (2009-02-16).&nbsp; Please note that this agreement did not take effect in 2009.</li>
<li>Great Oak Common House Children Supervision Policy (2009-03-16).</li>
<li>Quorum Change (2009-04-20).&nbsp; </li>
<li>Workshop Committee Mandate (2009-08-17).</li>
<li>Overall Community Workshop Policy (2009-09-21).</li>
<li>Budget for 2010 (2009-11-04).</li>
<li>Community Guidelines for Conducting Great Oak Business via Email (2009-12-14).</li>
<li>Payment of Late Association Fees Policy (2009-12-14).&nbsp; A policy to address what happens when a household is late paying their association fees. </li>
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		<title>Memories of 2009 at Great Oak</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Members of Great Oak were asked to share the highlights of the past year that they remember best.
From children:
*&#160; Playing on the tire swing*&#160; Watching bees*&#160; Playing in the splash pool with Toby*&#160; Doing mother&#8217;s helper for Emily (Bo &#38; Toby) and Katie (Ellie)*&#160; Playing with/watching the kids at the common house*&#160; Getting the tire [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members of Great Oak were asked to share the highlights of the past year that they remember best.</p>
<p>From children:</p>
<p>*&nbsp; Playing on the tire swing<br />*&nbsp; Watching bees<br />*&nbsp; Playing in the splash pool with Toby<br />*&nbsp; Doing mother&#8217;s helper for Emily (Bo &amp; Toby) and Katie (Ellie)<br />*&nbsp; Playing with/watching the kids at the common house<br />*&nbsp; Getting the tire for the tire swing and putting it up<br />*&nbsp; Giving the meeting on bees and showing off our bee suits; putting the bees in their hive; removing first bee sting (Talia)<br />*&nbsp; Meeting newcomers, especially Mailis<br />*&nbsp; Helping on the workday<br />*&nbsp; The tree house meeting; serving drinks at that meeting<br />*&nbsp; Doing the play with Talia &amp; Anya<br />*&nbsp; Inviting my cello teacher to Thanksgiving<br />*&nbsp; Seeing/inviting Uma for Thanksgiving dinner<br />*&nbsp; Seeing Seth &amp; Kaelin at Halloween</p>
<p>From adults:</p>
<p>*&nbsp; Jan. 31 dinner and movie night<br />*&nbsp; lots of work to finish workshop<br />*&nbsp; Andrew&#8217;s scone sales<br />*&nbsp; goodbye to the GO chickens (Fall)<br />*&nbsp; building of the gluten-free power movement<br />*&nbsp; Eric&#8217;s board game days in the CH<br />*&nbsp; New Year&#8217;s Eve moon bounce party<br />*&nbsp; eating dinner on the front porch; eating lunch at the play structure picnic table<br />*&nbsp; watching my daughter make great friends and making more friends ourselves<br />*&nbsp; great parties and social gatherings<br />*&nbsp; finishing the shade structure and having a wonderful dinner party under it<br />*&nbsp; getting the concrete floor in the CH foyer refinished<br />*&nbsp; planting 3 beautiful trees, a number of lilacs, rose of sharon, and forsythia<br />*&nbsp; kids jumping in sprinklers, helping to weed, chalk drawings on asphalt, four square<br />*&nbsp; working on the Grounds master plan<br />*&nbsp; watching the beautiful gardens bloom in the Spring<br />*&nbsp; sledding on the sledding hill<br />*&nbsp; decoratin gingerbread men<br />*&nbsp; carving pumpkins together<br />*&nbsp; the beautiful Diwali party Heather and Adi threw, with Bollywood dance lessons<br />*&nbsp; the art exhibits of the art from that month and the response from the people who enjoyed the art<br />*&nbsp; moving into GO in August and Diwali party<br />*&nbsp; &#8220;gold&#8221; paint repainted<br />*&nbsp; shade structure completed<br />*&nbsp; the Dresslars moved away <img src='http://gocoho.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> , Laura and John moved away <img src='http://gocoho.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> , Cher and Greg moved in <img src='http://gocoho.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , Vincent, Sari, and Mailis moved in:)<br />*&nbsp; Becky started an orchard<br />*&nbsp; the workshop is done!<br />*&nbsp; the Skills &amp; Thrills weekend.&nbsp; It was great to hear how people got involved in Great Oak and to be able to share my experiences - all while sitting outside in the warm sun on 11/14.&nbsp; Also as part of that weekend, the conversation cafe.&nbsp; I could share my feelings with a small group with a feeling of safety.<br />*&nbsp; Work days in May and October.&nbsp; There is a real sense of community in working with thers to get the work done.<br />*&nbsp; Helen&#8217;s baked beans, which sustained us during the first several days of cleaning, moving in furniture, and adjusting to a new place<br />*&nbsp; special parties such as:&nbsp; Laura&#8217;s party, Catherine&#8217;s party, the Diwali party, Wine Club and Wine Club dinners<br />*&nbsp; impromptu gatherings in the Summer under the pergola<br />*&nbsp; Summer cook-outs, potlucks, and especially on the 4th of July with fireworks.&nbsp; This also includes the 4th of July parade and getting to ride in the Smart Car with Jillian<br />*&nbsp; the New Year&#8217;s Eve parties at the CH and at Jillian and Elph&#8217;s<br />*&nbsp; beautiful new concrete finish in the CH entryway<br />*&nbsp; building the East End pergola<br />*&nbsp; gravel in steps between units 24 &amp; 25<br />*&nbsp; having our 1000th common meal<br />*&nbsp; new projector mounted in game room<br />*&nbsp; picnic under the shade structure<br />*&nbsp; Divya learning to bicycle 2 wheels in 20 minutes in April<br />*&nbsp; Tampopo food party<br />*&nbsp; Diwali party<br />*&nbsp; July 4th fun!<br />*&nbsp; chatting in the community garden with neighbors<br />*&nbsp; the swan strolling down the center of the community and the ducklins at Aaron and Alicia&#8217;s<br />*&nbsp; Diwali dance lesson from Jane.<br />*&nbsp; adding a garden plot, being in the sun, and harvesting many new vegetables<br />*&nbsp; Malcolm and Langston helping raise 4 ducklings.&nbsp; We got them in May, at the age of about 2-3 weeks, and had them through July, when we took them to Domino&#8217;s Farms, where they now live with other domesticated ducks<br />*&nbsp; In April, a huge swan waddled into the community and hung out in front of the sandbox, pooping almost constantly, for about 20 minutes.&nbsp; It then slowly waddled east through the community on the pedway, and then out of the community, across the parking lot, toward Touchstone</p>
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		<title>Memories of 2009 at Great Oak</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gailmgraham</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Members of Great Oak were asked to share the highlights of the past year that they remember best.
From children:
*&#160; Playing on the tire swing*&#160; Watching bees*&#160; Playing in the splash pool with Toby*&#160; Doing mother&#8217;s helper for Emily (Bo &#38; Toby) and Katie (Ellie)*&#160; Playing with/watching the kids at the common house*&#160; Getting the tire [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members of Great Oak were asked to share the highlights of the past year that they remember best.</p>
<p>From children:</p>
<p>*&nbsp; Playing on the tire swing<br />*&nbsp; Watching bees<br />*&nbsp; Playing in the splash pool with Toby<br />*&nbsp; Doing mother&#8217;s helper for Emily (Bo &amp; Toby) and Katie (Ellie)<br />*&nbsp; Playing with/watching the kids at the common house<br />*&nbsp; Getting the tire for the tire swing and putting it up<br />*&nbsp; Giving the meeting on bees and showing off our bee suits; putting the bees in their hive; removing first bee sting (Talia)<br />*&nbsp; Meeting newcomers, especially Mailis<br />*&nbsp; Helping on the workday<br />*&nbsp; The tree house meeting; serving drinks at that meeting<br />*&nbsp; Doing the play with Talia &amp; Anya<br />*&nbsp; Inviting my cello teacher to Thanksgiving<br />*&nbsp; Seeing/inviting Uma for Thanksgiving dinner<br />*&nbsp; Seeing Seth &amp; Kaelin at Halloween
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		<title>just stand a bit closer and the leakiness will heat you</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aditya</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[When we at Great Oak rented an infrared camera to try to find sources of heat loss in winter in our Common House, we took the opportunity to also do a &#8220;study&#8221; of the exteriors of our other buildings to try to find any surprising sources of heat loss. A set of pictures of each [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we at Great Oak rented an infrared camera to try to <a href="http://gocoho.org/blog/?p=78"target="_blank"  >find sources of heat loss in winter in our Common House</a>, we took the opportunity to also do a &#8220;study&#8221; of the exteriors of our other buildings to try to find any surprising sources of heat loss. A set of pictures of each unit were provided to the owners. Here are some interesting things that were noted:
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<li>the temperature range of the picture is shown at the bottom with the corresponding colors &#8212; dark is coldest, yellow to white is hottest &#8212; so for outside pictures, you want to find the bright spots that show heat leaking from your home,</li>
<li>as far as possible, I tried to take the pictures at night, without including the sky to reduce the range of temperatures and thereby constrain the color&nbsp; variation to make local details more visible &#8212; if the sky is included it will show up as &#8220;-40&#8243; at the low end&#8230;like this:&nbsp;<a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0175.jpg"title="IR 0175 W side of Building for units 34-37" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow"  onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/article/s3.amazonaws.com');"> <img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:25" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0175 W side of Building for units 34-37" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0175.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0175 W side of Building for units 34-37" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0175.jpg"><br />
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<li>unfortunately, on bright days, concrete porches absorbed a lot of heat and radiated it back out during the night, overwhelming the image and reducing the detail, so I took some more pictures during the day hoping to do it before the sun hit the home or caused large reflections on the windows, but not always successfully - here are some taken at night (the timestamp on the second picture is wrong) after a bright (but not necessarily warm) day; <a title="IR 0187 Unit 24 front porch" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0187.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:27" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0187 Unit 24 front porch" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0187.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0722" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0722.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:39" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0722" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0722.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0728" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0728.jpg">&nbsp;<br />
</a></li>
<li>likewise, bright portch lights also can overwhelm the image <a title="IR 0728" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study<br />
2010|]&#8221; class=&#8221;lightwindow&#8221; href=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640&#215;480/IR_0728.jpg&#8221;><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:40" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src =<br />
&#8216;http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg&#8217;&#8221; alt=&#8221;IR 0728&#8243; src=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0728.jpg&#8221; border=&#8221;0&#8243; /></a></li>
<li>the underside of overhangs are not well insulated, and often contain heat vents&#8230;little we can do about it unfortunately&nbsp; <a title="IR 0737" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0737.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:44" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0737" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0737.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0717" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0717.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:38" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0717" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0717.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0188 Unit 24 front top" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0188.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:27" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0188 Unit 24 front top" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0188.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>exposed cement foundation is a major source of heat loss &#8212; it conducts heat from your house all night long and in summer gets heatedup and conducts the heat into your house, so if the dirt is scraped away, put it back, and as you can cover it up <a title="IR 0682" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0682.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:34" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0682" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0682.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>you might see &#8220;sideways&#8221; plumes of heat, that is the exhaust from your water heater, or single large bright circles are typically the furnace vent; <a title="IR 0849 notice sunlight reflection on siding" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0849.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:02" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0849 notice sunlight reflection on siding" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0849.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0849.jpg"title="IR 0849 notice sunlight reflection on siding" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow"  onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/article/s3.amazonaws.com');"> </a><a title="IR 0852" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0852.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:03" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0852" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0852.jpg" border="0" /><br />
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<li>note the kitchen fan exhaust venting heat <a title="IR 0853" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0853.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:03" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0853" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0853.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0866 my reflection in window" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0866.jpg">&nbsp;<br />
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<li>there might also be reflections of sunlight or my reflection in windows that minorly distort the true contrast &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a title="IR 0866 my reflection in window" rel="lightbox[album:|GO<br />
outside Infrared Study 2010|]&#8221; class=&#8221;lightwindow&#8221; href=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640&#215;480/IR_0866.jpg&#8221;><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:07" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src =<br />
&#8216;http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg&#8217;&#8221; alt=&#8221;IR 0866 my reflection<br />
in window&#8221; src=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0866.jpg&#8221; border=&#8221;0&#8243; /></a><a title="IR 1417" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/640x480/IR_1417.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/11/2010 04:10:06" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 1417" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/tn_IR_1417.jpg" border="0" /><br />
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<li>chimmneys seem pretty well insulated, though I couldn&#8217;t hover above the roofs to really see the heat loss from above <a title="IR 0940" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0940.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:28" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0940" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0940.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>double basement doors are terribly leaky in all cases <a title="IR 1419" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/640x480/IR_1419.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/11/2010 04:10:06" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 1419" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/tn_IR_1419.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 1422" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/640x480/IR_1422.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/11/2010 04:10:07" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 1422" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/tn_IR_1422.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>in general, as can be expected, doors and windows were the major cause of heat loss; thick curtains/blinds really do work to insulate your home and probably are the best investment we can make (note the blind on one side of the upstairs window) <a title="IR 1425" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/640x480/IR_1425.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/11/2010 04:10:08" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 1425" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/tn_IR_1425.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>the rear of the units were harder to photograph as they were on a slope, or had a fence or there wasn&#8217;t much room to get far enough back</li>
<li>although building roofs routinely show a gap in the insulation between units during snow melt, the heat loss wasn&#8217;t significant enough to show using the IR camera <a title="IR 0822" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0822.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:55" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0822" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0822.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0824" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0824.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:55" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0824" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0824.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0827" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0827.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:56" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0827" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0827.jpg" border="0" /></a></li>
<li>and lest you think it wasn&#8217;t fun or funny <a title="IR 0924 Susan with Scruffy on leash and Dewey on porch" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0924.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:25" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0924 Susan with Scruffy on leash and Dewey on porch" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0924.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0925 Tim with coffee" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0925.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:56:25" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0925 Tim with coffee" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0925.jpg" border="0" /></a><a title="IR 0924 Susan with Scruffy on leash and Dewey on porch" rel="lightbox[album:|GO outside Infrared Study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0924.jpg"><br />
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		<title>in the cold, one dreams about insulation</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aditya</dc:creator>
		
	<category>energy</category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been 5 years since the Great Oak common house was built and we have 5 years of heating bills. Unlike the factory built buildings with our individual units, the Common House is the sole, heated, stick-built building on campus and is comparatively very leaky. As a more affordable alternative to a full blown [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been 5 years since the Great Oak common house was built and we have 5 years of heating bills. Unlike the factory built buildings with our individual units, the Common House is the sole, heated, stick-built building on campus and is comparatively very leaky. As a more affordable alternative to a full blown energy audit, we had an Infrared-only audit performed in November 2008. The auditors recommended we add insulation to our Common House attic as the quickest and least expensive step to reduce our energy bills. Unfortunately, they did not do a followup Infrared audit to see if that solved the most egregious problems. So, this year, Great Oak rented an Infrared camera (a Flir b50 from flir.com at $425+shipping&nbsp; per week) to take pictures and compare. Here is a comparative set of pictures, with 2008 on the left and the 2010 on the right with a visible spectrum image in the middle of our sitting room fireplace mantle and above:</p>
<p><img alt="" title="" src="http://www.gocoho.org/documents/ch/audit/img-069.jpg" height="180" width="240" /><img alt="" title="" src="http://www.gocoho.org/documents/ch/audit/img-070.jpg" height="180" width="240" /><img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0151.jpg" /></p>
<p>the before and after pictures look about the same, unfortunately, but the comparison is not entirely fair as different cameras were used and the auto-scaling of the colors to match temperature range might not be the same &#8212; the original 2008 audit pictures don&#8217;t have the temperature range shown so we can only guess that it is about the same as before or slightly better with the attic insulation. Which is disappointing.</p>
<p>A full table of comparisons may be found <a href="http://www.gocoho.org/documents/ch/audit/"target="_blank"  >here</a>. </p>
<p>Taking advantage of the camera, we also took picutres of the outside of all the buildings and various folks took pictures of the insides of their units.</p>
<p>Notable&nbsp;pictures taken in the Common House are shown below (all were taken after dark, after 9pm on a night when it was around 22 degrees Farenheit outside and the Common House is pretty much heated to 65 degrees inside). This first picture shows the residual heat in an uninsulated section of pipe coming from the solar hot water heater tank that feeds into the main hot water heater (natural gas powered). </p>
<p><a title="IR 0145 SDHW machinery" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0145.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:20" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0145 SDHW machinery" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0145.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />Almost without exception, outside corners were several degrees colder than adjoining walls or ceilings, suggesting that insulation was not &#8220;wrapped&#8221; around, this was true of the factory built units as well - this is the NW corner of the CH sitting room:</p>
<p><a title="IR 0150 sitting room NW corner" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0150.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:21" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0150 sitting room NW corner" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0150.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />The North side of the dining room ceiling, with peaked roof shows a bright stripe across it where the hot water pipe runs to the East side of the Common House from the hot water heater, so although the ceiling is around 65 degrees, there is a 9 degree or so heat loss out of that water pipe and at least half of it radiates skyward no doubt pushing up our hot water bill &#8212; perhaps we should consider having a separate hot water heater on the East side? <br /><a title="IR 0153 dining room N ceiling" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0153.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:21" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0153 dining room N ceiling" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0153.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0158 dining room N side with water pipe?" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0158.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:22" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0158 dining room N side with water pipe?" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0158.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br /><a title="IR 0169 W outside sink corner" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0169.jpg"><br />
</a>The next pictures are the water pipe coming down to the hallway<br />
sink on the East side with one showing the heavily insulated attic<br />
access panel (so heavily insulated now that I couldn&#8217;t push it up and<br />
get in there to take &#8220;after&#8221; pictures).<br /><a title="IR 0169 W outside sink corner" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0169.jpg"><img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:24" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0169 W outside sink corner" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0169.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0168 E attic accesss" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0168.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:24" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0168 E attic accesss" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0168.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />The 52 windows in the Common House are the major source of heat loss, though the blinds help to reduce the heat loss by almost half (just looking at surface temp) so we need to make sure we pull the blinds at night (or during the day in the summer) as it does really help. This is a North-facing window with a blind pulled half way down.<br />&nbsp;<a title="IR 0184 dining room N windows showing effect of blinds" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0184.jpg"><img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:26" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0184 dining room N windows showing effect of blinds" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0184.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />The pictures on the left are some dining room windows and the one on the right shows the play room windows &#8212; the middle one is clearly leakier than the other two:<br /><a title="IR 0155 dining room south windows" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0155.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:22" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0155 dining room south windows" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0155.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0156 dining room south windows with peak" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0156.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:22" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0156 dining room south windows with peak" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0156.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0162 playroom window, contrast" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0162.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:23" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0162 playroom window, contrast" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0162.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />The skylight in the game room is just a bit leakier than most windows, so likely a major source of heat in the hot summer:<br /><a title="IR 0166 game room skylight" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0166.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:23" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0166 game room skylight" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0166.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />and even though the LCD projector is in &#8220;standby&#8221; it is always warm, consuming a trickle of energy:<br /><a title="IR 0165 game room ceiling" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0165.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:23" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0165 game room ceiling" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0165.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />the outside doors are particularly leaky, especially as they age fast and warp in the corners given the heavy use &#8212; this one is the NE door and the South main door (which is new but doesn&#8217;t seem to be terribly better than the original doors we had in 2008 other than it latches more firmly):<br /><a title="IR 0167 NE door corner" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0167.jpg">&nbsp;<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:23" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0167 NE door corner" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0167.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0129 south main door" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0129.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:17" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0129 south main door" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0129.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />A running laundry machine is a good source of radiant heat so we should keep the laundry door closed in summer, to the right is the aquarium, with around the same surface temperature:<br /><a title="IR 0170 laundry room (note extra cold window)" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0170.jpg"><img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:24" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0170 laundry room (note extra cold window)" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0170.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 1458 aquarium" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/640x480/IR_1458.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/11/2010 04:10:13" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 1458 aquarium" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100311040526/tn_IR_1458.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />Outside, the laundy vents aren&#8217;t particularly notable compared with the heat loss from the rest of the building, though having the sky in the picture does throw off the automatic ranging:<br /><a title="IR 0186 laundry dryer vents not leaking as much as joints" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0186.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:27" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0186 laundry dryer vents not leaking as much as joints" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0186.jpg" border="0" />&nbsp;</a><a title="IR 0181 Solar hot water panels not leaking heat" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0181.jpg"><br />
</a><br />the solar hot water panels don&#8217;t hold much heat at night:<br /><a title="IR 0181 Solar hot water panels not leaking heat" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0181.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:26" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src =<br />
&#8216;http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg&#8217;&#8221; alt=&#8221;IR 0181 Solar hot water<br />
 panels not leaking heat&#8221; src=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0181.jpg&#8221; border=&#8221;0&#8243; />&nbsp;</a><a title="IR 0176 N side main door from outside (notice my reflection)" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0176.jpg"><br />
</a><br />and doors from the outside are somewhat leaky (notice my &#8220;heat&#8221; reflection in the glass):<a title="IR 0176 N side main door from outside (notice my reflection)" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0176.jpg"><br />
</a><br /><a title="IR 0176 N side main door from outside (notice my reflection)" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0176.jpg"><img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:25" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src =<br />
&#8216;http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg&#8217;&#8221; alt=&#8221;IR 0176 N side main<br />
door from outside (notice my reflection)&#8221; src=&#8221;http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0176.jpg&#8221; border=&#8221;0&#8243; /></a><br />a major source of heat loss seems to be the uncovered parts of the cement slab foundation, otherwise it is as expected, windows and doors are the major sources of heat loss and blinds do help. Some additional pictures of the North side:<br /><a title="IR 0182 east wing, notice slab leakage as bad as window" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0182.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:26" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0182 east wing, notice slab leakage as bad as window" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0182.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0828 NW main doors" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0828.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:56" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0828 NW main doors" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0828.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0829 N side door" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0829.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:56" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0829 N side door" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0829.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0830 N side door and media room" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0830.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:56" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0830 N side door and media room" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0830.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />and some of the South side:<br /><a title="IR 0172 general view, windows leak most" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0172.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:24" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0172 general view, windows leak most" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0172.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><a title="IR 0173 W wing, windows and doors leak most" rel="lightbox[album:|GO CH Infrared study 2010|]" class="lightwindow" href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/640x480/IR_0173.jpg"><br />
<img title="received from aditya on 03/08/2010 15:55:24" onerror="this.onerror=null; this.src = 'http://images.grot.org/clipart/photo.jpg'" alt="IR 0173 W wing, windows and doors leak most" src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.grot.org/people/2010/aditya/20100308155200/tn_IR_0173.jpg" border="0" /><br />
</a><br />In summary, adding the insulation to the ceiling made some difference but it is hard to be more specific. Given the structure that was probably the simplest change to make. The next best steps would be to see if can cover the exposed slab with insulation or at least some dirt (a building expert friend suggested that the best course of actoin would be to dig around 8-12 inches below the slab and then horizontally up to two feet underneat the slab and place foam insulation, but given the massive amount of labor and cost that would incur, it probably would not be cost-effective) and to try to cover as many of the windows as possible to minimize daily heat loss or gain as appropriate for the season.</p>
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		<title>3 Bedroom Home at Great Oak Cohousing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tdonahue</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[527 Little Lake Drive - Three bedroom unit for sale at Great Oak Cohousing. Open layout on ground floor with lots of light and views of nature. You&#8217;ll discover loads of storage and counter space in the kitchen, which features black-and-stainless appliances and tile floor. Living and dining areas have vaulted ceiling above and bamboo [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>527 Little Lake Drive - Three bedroom unit for sale at Great Oak Cohousing. Open layout on ground floor with lots of light and views of nature. You&#8217;ll discover loads of storage and counter space in the kitchen, which features black-and-stainless appliances and tile floor. Living and dining areas have vaulted ceiling above and bamboo flooring below. Low-maintenance Trex deck stretches across the rear of the house, with access directly from the living room, and offers views over the pond and wetland. Master bedroom on ground floor has walk-through closet connecting directly to full bathroom. Two more bedrooms are located on the carpeted second floor, along with a second full bath and access to attic storage space. Downstairs you&#8217;ll find a finished walkout basement with eight foot ceilings, French doors opening to the backyard, full kitchen, and third (half) bath; it provides an additional 500 square feet of flexible living space - family or exercise room, home office, fourth bedroom, mother-in-law suite - you decide! Well maintained native landscaping in front to welcome you home. $225,000 including garage. Please contact tim@gocoho.org for more information.</p>
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		<title>The view from one of our windows</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aditya</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations to Ted who had his photograph of the Great Oak West node featured as part of The View From Your Window &#8212; click on the picture below to see the feature.


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